• Proper arrangements for supervision and inspection of excation works.

.Execute, monitor, and ensure the timely completion of the project;

• Co-ordinate with QA/QC Engineer to ensure quality performance of the project to meet client’s requirements and regulations;

• Check working drawing, and identify discrepancies for resolution;

• Check for quality of work according to specification and requirements;

• Ensure the site operations comply with the project quality plan, including quality, environment, and occupational health & safety;

• Coordinate with contractors on matters pertaining to site and quality issues;

• Attend a weekly site meeting to solve worksite-related issues.

. arrange manpower to work properly according to site requirement

. ensure work progress.

Sources and prepares information for

participation in tender exercise.

Obtains, compiles and evaluates

quotations from the respective

suppliers/vendors according to tender

requirements.

Prepares bill of quantities which

involves quantity take-off, materials

sourcing, measuring and estimating

material and labour costs used in the

tendering process.

Other Ad hoc duties.

Must be able to READ and COMMUNICATE in FLUENT CHINESE !!!

Our client is a local leading player in Real Estate Industry, well-known for its diverse portfolio of properties and sustainable urban solutions. They are currently looking for several Retail Property Leasing Specialist due to team expansion. They are located at Central - easily assessible.

Responsibilities for Retail Property Leasing Specialist:

• Responsible for identifying and engaging potential retail tenants.
• Conduct market research, strategic networking, and proactive outreach.
• Manager will lead and mentor the team, ensuring the successful implementation of leasing strategies
• Primary focus will be on maximizing rental income and maintaining high occupancy rates.
• Responsible for finalizing lease agreements and managing documentation
• Build and maintain relationships with different stakeholders

Requirements:

• Diploma in any discipline
• Min 2 years of leasing experience
• Good communication and negotiation skills

Interested candidates who wish to apply for the advertised position, please click APPLY NOW or email an updated copy of your resume/cv.

We regret that only shortlisted candidate will be notified.

Email Address: [email protected]

Recruitpedia Pte. Ltd.

EA License No: 19C9682

EA Personnel No: R2198636 (Oh Puey Xin)

Our client is from Construction Industry. They are looking for a WSH Manager to assist their Finance team for the next phrase of their business. They are located at North of Singapore– easily accessible. The WSH Manager is responsible for:

Duties

• Responsible for developing, maintaining, and implementing the EHS Management System.
• Ensure compliance with legal requirements and conduct regular inspections and audits to uphold safety standards.
• Managing contractors, investigating incidents, and enforcing corrective actions.
• Review risk assessments, promote a strong EHS culture, and manage the fire protection system and emergency response team.
• Liaises with statutory bodies, provides training to employees, and ensures continual updates to management on EHS performance.
• Collaborate with third-party security providers and drive the continuous improvement of the plant's EHS system.

Requirements

• Min Diploma in Relevant Qualification in Workplace, Safety and Health
• Min 8 years relevant working experience in Construction Engineering Industry.

Interested candidates who wish to apply for the advertised position, please click APPLY NOW or email an updated copy of your resume/cv.

We regret that only shortlisted candidate will be notified.

Email Address: [email protected]

Recruitpedia Pte. Ltd.

EA License No: 19C9682

EA Reg. No. R23115141 (Tan Su Yee)

DESCRIPTION OF JOB TASK AND RESPONSIBILITIES:

• Direct reports to Site Safety Health Officer and PM.
• Receive and follow orders from the Site Safety & Health Officer.
• Conducts workplace safety inspections on construction site/projects and ensure that all activities are in compliance with safety standards and government regulations.
• Conducts new-employee health and safety orientations.
• Assist the Site Safety Health Officer in conducting accident investigations.
• Assist in maintenance of the database file system for annex specific deliverables and generate various safety related report.
• Perform and prepare Activity Hazard Analyses to evaluate work-related hazards associated with non-routine or complicated projects.
• Responsible for workplace and/or project site safety requirements which include but are not limited to inspection, identification, control and elimination of workplace hazards, appropriate personal protective equipment (PPE) and proper usage, safe working practices and procedures, safe site condition, proper usage of tools and equipment and monitoring of hazardous materials including generation of hazardous waste.

BASIC JOB QUALIFICATIONS

• Experience in the field of Safety and Health preferably with a US Military Base Installation.

EXPERIENCE:

• At least 1- 3 year of experience in the field of Safety and Health

Senior Project Manager

• Construction Industry
• Basic $7,500 - $10,000 (commensurate with experience)
• PB
• 5.5 Days; Timing will be dscussed during the interview
• Location: Singapore River, Central Region

Job Responsibilities:

• Report and assist Project Director (PD) on project functions included but not limited to project management, site management, risk control management etc. to meet the project(s) goals
• Leading and mentoring a project team by setting guidelines and/or procedures, providing advice and supervision when necessary
• Responsible for overall Project Management activities inclusive of overall planning and coordination of project from award of project, design, construction to completion within established budget, schedule and quality standards
• Assist PD in collations of project progress reports e.g. Monthly Report, VO Management, EOT Assessment, Project Progress Updates, etc
• Monitor project development schedule and manage the day-to-day operations of a program, project or function, including developing short and long-range goals, objectives and budgets, coordinating activities with other Contractors
• Conduct technical reviews to ensure compliance with Contractual requirements and target completion date is met
• Liaise with Client’s Representatives, Consultants and/or Contractors engaged on the project and attend regular meetings so as to ensure the progress is on schedule
• Supervise and monitoring the site labor force and monitor the work of Subcontractors including resolve any unexpected construction difficulties and other problems that may arise
• Oversee quality control and safety matters on the site and to ensure Environmental, Safety & Health (EHS) practices are carried out at all time and identify high risks safety hazard activities before construction and approval of Method Statements - Be responsible for any other duties that may be assigned from time to time as your superior/management deem fit
• Under the WSH Act, employees have a duty to keep their workplace and colleagues safe:(a)Cooperate with employers and follow safety and health procedure; (b)Report unsafe acts and incidents; (c) Do not tamper with safety devices or perform wilful or reckless acts
• Be responsible for any other duties that may be assigned from time to time as your superior/management deem fit

Job Requirements:

• Degree recognised by Singapore Professional Engineers Board (PEB) in Civil Engineering or equivalent 10 years and more of working experience in the construction industry
• Experience in LTA/Roadworks/MRT/Viaducts projects.

How to apply:

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We regret only shortlisted candidates will be notified.

Kok Jean Ray
Registration Number: R22110935
EA Licence No: 16C8004 (Elitez Pte Ltd)

- Administer project planning and project execution
- To study drawings, specifications and contracts to understand project requirements
- Willing to learn and hands-on
- Liaise with client, consultants & main / sub-contractors and coordinate for site activities arrangement
- Perform site inspection and ensure all project activities are performed productively and are in accordance to specification and schedule, in the most efficient and cost effective manner
- Assist in cost control and estimating activities;
- Planning and deployment of resources such as manpower, machinery, equipment and material
- Preparation of report, Method Statements and technical submissions
- Ensure the project complies with regulations and clients’ specifications
- Adhere to safety and health regulations and aim for zero accident in the workplace
- Ensure safety and housekeeping is to maintained to the highest standard
- Prepare job completion record and progress claims
- Continually seek improvements in the work systems
- Ensure all company reports and documentation are completed accurately and on time;
- To perform Ad-Hoc duties as per assigned

Minimum 5 years experience in construction builders field

Minimum Diploma in related engineering

Must be able to read construction drawings

Must be able to communicate with indian, bangladesh and chinese workers via any language proficiency, do not need be fluent

Must be able to read and write in english

• Organise, host and facilitate BIM meetings with sub-contractors
• Author, conflict detect and update BIM models.
• Document BIM models accurately and efficiently
• Maintain BIM standards and workflow
• Other ad-hoc duties as assigned by Superior

Qualifications and Job Requirements:

• Relevant Diploma/Degree in BIM related field
• Minimum 3 years of work experience as BIM Modeller
• Familiar and well-versed in Autodesk Revit and Construction Cloud
• Able to work independently and in a team
• Fluency in spoken and written English language in order to liaise with English-speaking stakeholders regarding BIM-related matters

JOB DESCRIPTION

· SURVEYING & MEASUREMENTS:

- Conduct accurate field surveys to establish control points, benchmarks, and reference lines.

- Perform detailed topographical surveys, monitoring the progress of the project to ensure alignment with design specifications.

- Calculate and document quantities for materials, work completed, and overall project progress.

- Regularly update as-built drawings, marking any deviations from the original design.

· SITE SUPERVISION:

- Monitor the positioning of the construction site works, ensuring that all installations, flyover alignments, and structures conform to approved plans.

- Work with construction teams to resolve any discrepancies between design plans and actual site conditions.

- Maintain precise records of the surveying and measurement activities.

- Supervise and guide junior surveyors and subcontractors.

· QUALITY CONTROL & COMPLIANCE:

- Verify compliance with all relevant building codes, safety standards, and LTA guidelines for the flyover project.

- Conduct regular checks on instrumentation and equipment to ensure accuracy.

- Coordinate with engineers to ensure project milestones are met on time and within scope.

- Identify and resolve any surveying issues, ensuring minimal delays in construction.

· REPORTING & DOCUMENTATION:

- Prepare daily, weekly, and monthly progress reports for the Project Manager, detailing survey activities, completed work, and any issues encountered.

- Document all survey data accurately, ensuring the proper filing of hard and soft copies.

- Assist with the preparation of as-built drawings and design updates.

· COORDINATION & COMMUNICATION:

- Liaise with the construction team and other stakeholders to ensure smooth execution of the project.

- Attend site meetings to provide updates on survey progress and address any concerns.

- Provide technical support to project teams when required, offering solutions to resolve survey-related issues.

REQUIREMENTS

- Bachelor's degree or Diploma in Surveying, Civil Engineering, or related field.

- Registered Resident Surveyor with the Singapore Institute of Surveyors and Valuers (SISV)

- in using surveying equipment and software.

- Strong knowledge of construction processes, methodologies, and project phases.

- Knowledge of Singapore’s LTA standards and building regulations is an advantage.

Responsibilities :

• Implement and control health and safety on work sites
• Ensure a safe and tidy working environment is maintained on work sites at all times
• Issue personal protective equipment to workers on work sites
• Conduct regular site checks to ensure site staff and worker adhere to health and safety regulations
• Maintain and keep proper site health and safety records
• Assist in the investigation of all site accidents
• Minimize health and occupational hazards on sites
• Assist Safety Officer to implement and enforce OHSMS

Requirements :

• Minimum Advanced Certificate in WSH Level B
• Certificate in Manage Work-At-Height
• Preferably with 1 to 2 years working experience in construction industry related to safety
• Familiar with WSH regulations

Working Days, Time and Location :

• Mondays to Saturdays
• 8.00am to 5.00pm
• Resorts World Sentosa

Job Description:

• Liaise with sub-contractors on day-to-day site operations.
• Proactively manage any changes in project scope.
• Identify and resolve any site issues with other trades.
• Ensure the project meets clients' quality standards.
• Able to interact with all levels of stakeholders.
• Attend regular consultant meeting

Job Requirements:

• Recognized Washington Accord Univeristy of Degree in Civil Engineering.
• Min 5 years of local working experience.
• Good computer literacy.
• Self-motivated and able to work independently.

JOB RESPONSIBILITIES

HR duties in accordance with MOM Regulations:

• Lead and manage a team of HR staff and be responsible for the processing of all work passes for over including the application, renewal, cancellation of Employment, Dependent and S Passes.

• To organize and plan yearly training programs for staff and workers.

• Coordination of internal and external training, including the maintaining of attendance records and scheduling.

• Involved in the full hiring process from the scheduling of Interviews, sitting in with hiring managers, vetting of candidates and salary negotiation.

• Job posting and liaison with recruitment agencies.

• Work pass matters: application/renewal/cancellation.

• Prepare and arrange worker's onboarding and offboarding process.

• Coordinate and manage dormitory/accommodation matters.

• Handle worker's home leave and repatriation arrangement.

• Attendance, leave management and government claims/survey.

• Arrange training course for workers.

• Monitor leave management and attendance checks.

• Provide advice to employees on all HR matters including grievances

• Bridge between employees and Management team to forge a cordial working environment

• Preparing of employment contracts, confirmation, promotion and increment notices for all staff including workers

• Proper documentation of employee movements across project sites, salary adjustments and re-designations.

• Assist in mid-year and annual performance reviews.

• Purchase and maintaining company insurance policies, including bonds, foreign workers medical insurance, work injury compensation policy, office policy, hospitalization and surgical policy.

• Attend MOM court case on workers’ complaints.

• Provide weekly/monthly HR Reports, including project site headcount, work permit quotas, cost control budgeting and payroll reports.

• Manage office and factory facilities, monthly office procurement, etc.

• Manage petty cash and assist in monthly petty cash claims, etc.

• Arrange monthly meeting.

• Manage company licensing and certificate renewal, eg. bizSafe, BCA workhead, etc.

• Manage company vehicles, insurance and road tax renewal, COE, servicing and maintenance, etc.

Job Requirements

· Min 5 years of relevant experience in Singapore Building Construction Industry, experience in maincon company

· Possess good managerial skills

Responsibilities:

• Oversee and lead the site safety team and subcontractors in the implementation of company's safety systems.
• Liaise closely with site operations staff and project manager on all safety and health issues.
• To supervise safety and promote safety conduct.
• To inspect and rectify any unsafe place of work.
• To correct any unsafe practice;
• Conduct regular safety inspection/audits to identify safety and health hazards and conduct safety gap analysis.
• Assist in accident reporting and investigations as well as tool-box meetings.
• Assist in all areas of safety planning and incident prevention.
• Assist in ISO OHSAS 45001 and ISO 14001 audits.
• Attend to any government agencies, insurance companies, auditors etc.
• Any other duties as stipulated in WSH Act.

Requirements:

• MOM registered WSHO.
• Minimum 5 years of relevant experience in building & construction.
• Possess good communication skills.
• Good knowledge in ISO OHSAS 45001 and ISO 14001
• Able to work across all departments and functions.
• Knowledge of the construction industry activities

Job Description:-

• To study pre-comp (to study discrepency of surveying data and establish site boundaries control point) survey plan for project execution
• To verify the accuracy of survey data, including measurements and calculations conducted at survey sites
• Ensure all setting up are within contract boundary
• Prepare site setting out data, plan and map for Survey crew
• Volume Calculation if required
• Liaise with client and contractors on survey matters
• Co-Ordinate with engineers, site supervisor, various sub-contractors for surveyor related works
• Record and data collection for the preparation for as- built drawings
• Supervise field crew performing various surveying functions

Requirements:-

• Diploma, Advanced/Higher/Graduate Diploma, Engineering (Civil) or equivalent or Trade Certificate in Engineering Surveying Course
• At least 8 year(s) of working experience in the related field is required for this position.
• Preferably Junior Executives specializing in Engineering - Civil/Construction/Structural or equivalent.

Job Description:

• Responsible for accomplishing the project objectives within the constraints such as project scope, time, cost and qualityInterpret technical designs and drawings for construction on-site
• Ensure the project complies with regulations and clients’ specifications
• Coordinate M&E services and prepare CSD/SEM drawings for submission
• Coordinate the integration of Civil, Architectural and M&E works on site with clients, consultations and subcontractors
• Plan, develop and monitor work schedules to ensure timely completion of allocated tasks and schedules
• Prepare reports to clients and project manager on progress, delays, defects and rectification measures for the M&E works
• Provide technical advice and resolve M&E technical issues
• Reporting the progress of M&E works and arranging site inspections with system-wide contractors, sub-contractors and clerk-of-works

Requirement:

• Degree in Mechanical or Electrical Engineering
• Minimum 5 years of relevant experience

Job Description & Requirements

Control and monitor work progress and ensure work quality.

· Responsible for working closely with project team and resolving technical issue

· Responsible for coordination and liaise with contractors, suppliers, and consultants

· To assist Project Manager on coordination work, planning and monitoring site's workforce and multi-disciplinary works from inception to completion, inclusive of project documentation, plans and reports etc.

· Any other ad-hoc duties assigned

Requirements:

· Engineering or Civil / Structural Engineering Diploma / Equivalent

Job Description

· Attend site visits and tender show round

· Propose and design simple yet sustainable landscape designs for specified sites

· Prepare quotes and landscape maintenance reports

· Coordinate work orders with ground crew

· Dealing with complaints from client on site

· Prepare maintenance schedule

· Monitor and recording of site staff attendance

· Handling few projects assigned and coordination

· To be responsible for the administrative and operational for landscape project aspects, including liaise with customers for project requirements and progress

· Facilitate on the job training program for new crew members and provide ongoing training for crew members’ skill development objectives

Requirements

· Degree/Diploma in Horticulture, Arboriculture or other related fields with minimum of 1 yr experience in landscaping industries

· Required language(s): English, Chinese (in order to deal with complaints from Chinese speaking client on site)

· Dynamic and energetic

· Good team player with ability to lead and multi-task

· Committed to work

· Required Skill(s): Microsoft Office

· Excellent interpersonal and communication skills

· Prefer candidates with horticulture or arborist knowledge

· On-the-job training provided

· Entry level candidates with the relevant Polytechnic / WSQ Diploma / Degree are welcomed

Working Hours and Office Location:

· 5.5-day work week

· Office location: Mandai Estate

· Work location: Various Sites

As an Account Executive, you will be an integral part of the finance team, contributing to the efficient functioning of the finance department. Your responsibilities will encompass a range of financial activities.

Responsibilities

• Full Set Accounts (preferably - if not training will be provided)
• Accounts Receivables and Payables processes
• Timely preparation of Monthly, Quarterly and Yearly Reports
• Prepare quarterly GST Report and Tax filing
• Assist internal and external auditors on the accounts in accordance with company policy/procedures & accounting standards
• Adhoc duties as assigned

Requirements

• Candidate must possess at least a Diploma in Accounting & Finance or equivalent
• 2-3 years of experience in accounting
• Full sets accounting and travel/tourism/hospitality industry would be advantage
• Knowledge of Sage or Sun Accounting Software will be an advantage
• Proficient in MS Office
• Both independent and a team player
• Meticulous and organized
• Able to commit to a fast-paced environment

Our client is from Construction industry. Due to their current expansion plan, they are looking for a HSE Manager to join their team, in hopes of developing the current high performing team. They are located in the Central.

Job Responsibilities

• Provide guidance to management on Environmental, Health, and Safety (EHS) regulations and legal requirements.
• Ensure compliance with statutory requirements such as the WSH Act and Regulations.
• Assess and enhance the company's safety performance through continuous improvement measures.
• Review safety resources and recommend improvements to meet EHS standards.
• Coordinate monthly safety site inspections with senior management and project teams.
• All other adhoc duties as assigned.

Requirements

• Min Degree in Relevant Qualification in Workplace, Safety and Health
• Min 8 years relevant working experience in Construction Engineering Industry.

Interested candidates who wish to apply for the advertised position, please click APPLY NOW or email an updated copy of your resume/cv.

We regret that only shortlisted candidate will be notified.

Email: [email protected]

Recruitpedia Pte. Ltd.

EA License No. 19C9682

EA Reg. No. R23115553 (Lai Hor Yan)

Job Description

• Industry/ Organization Type: Construction Industry
• Position Title: Sales & Operation Branch Manager
• Working Location: Based in Thailand (Bangkok)
• Working Hours: 5.5 days / 6 days – Flexible
• Salary Package: Up to SGD 5000 + Incentive + Transport & Accommodation provided + Bonus
• Duration: Permanent Role

Key Responsibilities

• Oversee day-to-day operations, ensuring efficiency, productivity, and thorough quality control
• Develop and implement sales strategies, identify new business opportunities, and secure projects to support company growth
• Build and maintain strong relationships with key clients, contractors, and industry stakeholders, and serve as the main point of contact for client inquiries and project updates
• Lead, coach, and motivate the sales team to achieve targets and enhance performance
• Manage project timelines, resources, and budgets to ensure on-time and on-budget delivery while ensuring compliance with safety regulations and company policies
• Prepare budgets, forecasts, and financial reports
• Monitor project costs and revenues to ensure profitability, and advise on cost-effective practices
• Negotiate contracts and agreements to ensure favourable terms
• Facilitate effective communication between sales, operations, and on-site teams
• Develop and monitor KPIs, conduct regular reviews, and implement process improvements
• Ensure that all operations comply with local regulations and company policies

APPLY NOW!!!

• Min. ITE
• Min. 3 years of working experience in Sales and Operations Management, preferably in the Construction
• Proven track record of achieving sales targets and driving business growth
• Experience in project management and overseeing large-scale projects
• Understanding of the local market dynamics and cultural nuances
• Being able to speak Thai will be a plus

Kindly apply through ANY of the following methods:

• Submit your application by clicking the APPLY button;
• Email your resume to Job(at)anradus.com.sg. Please indicate #67153 on the email subject.

Anradus Application Policy: We value each application and ensure every resume is reviewed. Our process is efficient, typically concluding within 3 working days. If you do not receive communication from us within this timeframe, it's likely that your application has not been shortlisted by our client. In such cases, we recommend continuing your job search to maximize your opportunities.

Anradus Pte Ltd | EA License No. 20C0161 | Celine Tan | EA Reg No.: R1873694

Support the Quality Manager and teams; follow up Daily schedule and prepare the Quality control and Quality assurance inspection documents.

• Ensure the proper implementation of the quality programmes for internal audits

• Carry out different type of track work Test and Inspection for Electrical testing, Concreting, Toe Load test, Turnouts, Thermit and Flash Butt Welding .

• Coordinate with client for material standards and method statement relating matters

• Attend laboratory testing for different type of materials (Proving test as well as routine test)

• Maintain all project quality records, quality audit plans and technical documents relative to site quality control

• Overseas FAT Inspections and respective report submissions

Requirements:

• Degree/ Diploma in Engineering or equivalent

• Minimum 5 year(s) of experience in Construction project

• Familiar with Singapore MOM safety rules.

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We are looking for experienced and motivated individuals to join our dynamic Facilities Management team as Facilities Officer.

As the Facilities Officer, you are responsible for the building Facilities Maintenance (defect standard) and building services (under the scope of the Developer) at all times.

Key Responsibilities:

• Plan and supervise maintenance/ defect activities to ensure inspection programs and preventive maintenance works are carried out as planned and per standards expected.
• Follow up promptly on corrective maintenance works to minimize downtime and maintain a safe environment.
• Manage and supervise daily and cyclical cleaning programs, and conduct regular inspections and monthly performance assessments to ensure cleaning standards are met.
• Manage upgrading and improvement works, understand scope and requirements, develop work proposals, and estimate associated costs.
• Oversee procurement of services, supervise work progress, and ensure materials and workmanship meet standards.
• Review and track site progress through meetings and inspections to meet the user's project completion timeline.
• Manage and supervise defect periodic structural inspections conducted by appointed Qualified Persons according to the planned schedule and follow up with rectification of identified defects.
• Manage and supervise logistical setup and technical support as required.
• Identify improvement works, maintenance needs, and cyclical maintenance programs and derive/ submit the budget required for the new Financial Year.
• Support the other tasks assigned.

Requirements:

• At least 5 years of work experience in the building or facilities management industry, preferred in condominium/ residential setting.
• Good knowledge of building services design, installation, and maintenance/ defect
• Proficient with Microsoft Office, such as Excel, Word and PowerPoint
• Self-motivated, positive working attitude and customer-oriented
• Good oral and written communication and interpersonal skills
• Ability to work with different levels of people.

We are looking for a committed and skilled technical programmer to join our team. If you are passionated about automation and eager to help improve production efficiency, we would like to hear from you.

In this role, you need to communicated closely with clients in China and Malaysia, Indonesia etc. Therefore, proficiency in English and Chinese both speaking and writing are required.

Job Responsiblities:

- Design, develop, test and implement automation systems as required by product manager.

- Maintain and upgrade existing automation equipment to ensure effetiveness and safety.

- Analyze system performance and provide recommendations to improve automation processes.

- Documatation and maintain technical information in a manner for our automation systema.

- Collablorate closely with various departments to ensure the continues improving on our automation system performance.

Requirements:-

- Diploma or higher in Engineering, IT, or related field.

- at least 1 year working experience in automation engineering or related area (fresh graduates are welcome)

- Proficiency in programming languages such as Python, Java, and others.

- Ability to tackle technical challenges and problem solving skills.

- Good communication skills and a team-player mindset.

- Profiency in communicate with both English and Chinese.

- Experience in robotic systems integration with industry background

• Looking for experienced aircon technician with class 3 driving license
• 6 days working week
• Willing to work overtime
• Must be able to work as a team
• Aircon installation & mainteance servicing and repairing
• Must be able to troubleshoot and repair all type of aircon system (split, VRV etc)
• Able to install split/VRV system
• Able to work independently and ability to interact with staff at all levels.
• Relevant Experience at least 8 years